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Unread 07-01-2011, 12:52 PM   #1
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Alot of people have been asking 'What's the best training Pokemon?'.
So here is a guide to help you. It's an FAQ-type post.

If there are any mistakes please PM me.


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Where to start?


Well, firstly, most people use a Fighting-type to train on using Blissey Gyms. This is very common but you don't have to use a Fighting-type. All it means is the Pokemon takes longer to beat the same training gym than a fighting-type with equivalent Attack. Why? We find out below.

When training on Blissey Gyms, defeat them using Close Combat!

Why Fighting-Types?


Pokemon that are Fighting-type get something called STAB.

STAB = Same Type Attack Bonus.

This means that, say, a Pokemon uses Close Combat. The damage used by Close Combat is increased by half if the Pokemon that uses it is of all or part Fighting-type, eg Riolu/Lucario.

Something that Striker X has reminded me of is that the move gets the boost, not the Attack stat of the Pokemon. But I'll leave the Attack + STAB figures on there anyway, just so you can look.

Fighting types also generally have higher Attack.
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Note: On paper, 100 and 130 Attack look similar. In RPG terms, however, the extra 30 Attack does make a noticeable difference in the damage of Blisseys, especially if both use the same move with same STAB. A lower Attack can often increase the level needed for a one-hit knockout by up to 200 levels (even more if STAB isn't present). Speed is also an important factor in choosing a Pokemon.
Three other things increase any moves' attack.

a) an item, eg Life Orb / X Attack (there is a list of items later on)
b) levelling up the Pokemon
c) the Pokemon facing you has a weakness against that move (eg 2x, 4x)

Close Combat is good because it has 120 base Attack, is a Fighting move, is 100% accurate and Blisseys have a 2x weakness against Fighting moves.

What Fighting-types are there?


I've drawn up a list below. I'll leave you to decide!
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Number - Name - Swap? - base HP - base Attack - Attack w/STAB - Defense - Speed - Ratio [base Atk : Def : Speed]

Red = has base 100+ Attack

Released Pokemon (Fully Evolved):

57 - Primeape - Yes - 65 - 105 - 158 - 60 - 95 - 21:12:19
62 - Poliwrath - Yes - 90 - 85 - 128 - 95 - 70 - 17:19:14
68 - Machamp - Yes - 90 - 130 - 195 - 80 - 55 - 26:16:11
106 - Hitmonlee - Yes - 50 - 120 - 180 - 53 - 87 - ~24:11:17
107 - Hitmonchan - Yes - 50 - 105 - ~158 - 79 - 76 - ~21:16:15
214 - Heracross - Yes - 80 - 125 - ~188 - 75 - 85 - 25:15:17
237 - Hitmontop - Yes - 50 - 95 - ~142 - 95 - 70 - 19:19:14

257 - Blaziken - Yes - 80 - 120 - 180 - 110 - 80 - 24:22:16
286 - Breloom - Yes - 60 - 130 - 195 - 80 - 70 - 26:16:14
297 - Hariyama - Yes - 144 - 120 - 180 - 60 - 50 - 24:12:10
308 - Medicham - Yes - 60 - 60 - 90 - 75 - 80 - 12:15:16

392 - Infernape - No - 76 - 104 - 156 - 71 - 108 - ~21:14:22
448 - Lucario - No - 70 - 110 - 165 - 65 - 85 - 22:13:17
454 - Toxicroak - No - 83 - 106 - 159 - 65 - 85 - ~21:13:17
475 - Gallade - Yes - 68 - 125 - 187.5 - 65 - 80 - 25:13:16

500 - Emboar - No - 110 - 123 - 184.5- 65 - 65 - 25:13:13
534 - Conkeldurr - No - 105 - 140 - 210 - 95 - 45 - 28:19:9
538 - Throh - No - 120 - 100 - 150 - 85 - 45 - 20:17:9
539 - Sawk - No - 75 - 105 - ~158 - 75 - 85 - 21:15:17
560 - Scrafty - No - 65 - 90 - 135 - 115 - 58 - ~18:23:12
620 - Mienshao - No - 65 - 125 - ~188 - 60 - 105 - 25:12:21


Released others to 'consider' (Not fully evolved):

56 - Mankey - Yes - 40 - 80 - 120 - 35 - 70 - 16:7:14
68 - Machop - Yes - 70 - 80 - 120 - 50 - 35 - 16:10:7
69 - Machoke - Yes - 80 - 100 - 150 - 70 - 45 - 20:14:9

236 - Tyrogue - No - 35 - 35 - 52.5 - 35 - 35 - 7:7:7!

257 - Combusken - Yes - 60 - 85 - ~128 - 60 - 55 - 17:12:11
296 - Makuhita - Yes - 72 - 60 - 90 - 30 - 25 - 12:6:5
307 - Meditite - Yes - 30 - 40 - 60 - 55 - 60 - 8:11:12

391 - Monferno - No - 64 - 78 - 117 - 52 - 81 - ~16:10:16
447 - Riolu - No - 40 - 70 - 105 - 40 - 60 - 14:8:12
453 - Croagunk - No - 83 - 106 - 159 - 65 - 85 - ~21:13:17

499 - Pignite - No - 90 - 93 - ~140 - 55 - 55 - ~19:11:11
532 - Timburr - No - 75 - 80 - 120 - 55 - 35 - 16:11:7
533 - Gurdurr - No - 85 - 105 - ~158 - 85 - 40 - 21:17:8
559 - Scraggy - No - 50 - 75 - ~113 - 70 - 48 - ~15:14:10
619 - Mienfoo - No - 45 - 85 - ~128 - 55 - 65 - 17:11:13


Generation 5 Fighting-Types (Unreleased and Evolved)]:

638 - Cobalion - No - 91 - 90 - 135 - 129 - 108 - ~18:26:22
639 - Terakion - No - 91 - 129 - ~194 - 90 - 108 - ~26:18:22
640 - Virizion - No - 91 - 90 - 135 - 72 - 108 - ~18:14:22
647 - Keldeo - No - 91 - 72 - 108 - 90 - 108 - ~14:18:22
648 - Meloetta - No - 100 - 77 - ~116 - 77 - 90 - ~15:15:18

(Note that, as of November '12, none of these on the list are obtainable in the RPG yet.)




------------------------End of lists------------------
What moveset should I use?

Close Combat
Recover
Swords Dance
Cross Chop
is the moveset I usually use. Feel free to copy or change on preference.

bigboel has suggested Drain Punch instead of Recover.



What about items?

Well.... here is a list of items you could use with your Pokemon.

Life Orb

Location: <Click here>
Cost: 3,750 or 5,000 Team Points
Function: Boosts damage by 30%, but takes away 10% of total HP each turn.
Alternative 1: Power Boost [375,000 or 500,000 Team Points] boosts damage by 10% but takes no HP.
Alternative 2: Elemental Stone* [500,000,000 Team Points] boosts damage by 50% but takes no HP.

Elemental Stone requires 1 bill TS to be available.


Team Boost

Location: <Click here>
Cost: 4 or 5 Team Points
Function: Increases amount of Team Points per battle to either 4500 or 9000.


Amulet Coin

Location: <Click here>
Cost: 38 or 50 Team Points
Function: Doubles amount of money earned per battle.


X Speed

Location: Voltorbs on Untouched Growth
Function: Increases speed stat by 10.


Quick Claw

Location: Meowths on City Limits
Function: Gives 18.75% chance of attacking first.


Exp Share / All

Location: Exp Share - Wobbuffets on Victory Path; Exp All is unobtainable
Function: Exp per battle is either shared between Exp Share holders or, if Exp All is used, Exp is given to all Pokemon on your roster.


X Accuracy

Location: Kecleons on Treepath or Memorial Caves (I think)
Function: Boosts the Accuracy stat a bit.



What do I do now?

If you've got a training Pokemon and you've applied an item, the only thing to do is visit: http://wiki.tppc.info/Training_Accounts
Find a Chansey/Blissey gym that is close to the level of your training Pokemon, put it in your 'friends' list and viola! Ready to battle it!

Defeat the Chansey/Blisseys using Close Combat!

Good luck with your training!

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Unread 07-01-2011, 12:54 PM   #2
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drain punch instead of recover?
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Added it as an option.
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what does Sword Dance do?
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Increases the attack by 2 stages or so. I just use it in case I accidently click the Attack box and it picks a random move. Other than that it isn't got much purpose. xD
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Nice guide. Really nice.
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A+ guide, good job!
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Thanks.

I got bored so I did this.
It took longer than you think, there was an issue with the stats being tabbed and crammed together, hence the dashes :<
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congratulatons, nice guide

and the bowl epic failed, big time, :X
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I always though STAB boosted the move and not the stat itself, so it'd always be base 360 power with a fighting type on Blissey instead of 240 with any other type on Blissey.

I think I'm wrong though. D:
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Thanks Sagte_Said

Striker, hmm, you're right.. I don't know what to do about it though D:
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Just edit it in I guess. D:
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it wont be bad to bold the attack stat with and without stab , that way ppl will confirm their thoughts better , instead of confusing them with all the unwanted stats
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I might just go and throw the STAB stats away.
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considering how you only added fighting types , its wont be a waste , but do bold what you leave as attack stats
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I bolded the main Attack part for the existing Pokemon in the RPG.
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nice guide :)

oh and you misspelt 'voila' you wrote viola.
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Power Boost
Location: <Click here>
Cost: 375.000 or 500.000 Team Points [Please correct me if i am wrong]
Function: Boosts damage by 10%, takes no HP.

Elemental Stone
Location: <Click here>
Cost:500.000.000 Team Points , but you need 1.000.000.000 to actually buy it
Function: boosts attack by 50%

What about Ursaring, it has a killer 130 attack stat but no added STAB

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You also find Kecleons in Memorial Caves.
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*Adds as Alternatives*
Also...
I listed Pokemon that are fighting-type.
I can see your point, but, I feel it's a bit unnessessary. :/

*Adds*
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Updated with Timburr/evo and Scrafty/evo
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Good job A+ :)
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Can you explain the ratio side, I can't really understand what it means. D:
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It basically compares the Attack, Defense and Speed proportion of the Pokemon's base stats. Often Speed is as important as Attack when choosing a training Pokemon.
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My guide.

Close Combat.
Attack
Continue.


Yeah, nice guide.
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